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how's it going higher side chatters you

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know the drill smoking a little smoke

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drinking a little drink from sunny San

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Diego I'm Greg Carl wood and today we're

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gonna swing back into the dark world of

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esoteric secret societies and their

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manipulation of everything we know

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spirituality culture language commerce

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education nearly every aspect of the

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modern human experience has been shaped

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by their grubby little fingers and I for

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one want to know more about it but for

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an outsider understanding the clear

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truth is like navigating a near infinite

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labyrinth of smoke and mirrors and lucky

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for us today's guest Frye directs is a

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member of over nine secret societies and

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esoteric orders and he's gonna break it

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down for us the best he can but my

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feeble mind just isn't qualified to go

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it alone so joining me here in the THC

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studio is my good friend and occasional

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co-host publisher of paranoia magazine

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the Holy Scriptures themselves you know

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him you love them Ron Pat and how the

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hell are you hey I'm doing quite well

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Greg thanks for having me on

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of course well man it's it's been a sad

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48 hours for me honestly I mean just two

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nights ago on the eve of the Blood Moon

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one of the boldest voices for the

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voiceless a brilliant teller of truth

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and a powerful guest we had on THC just

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two months ago Michael C Rupert signed

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off from his own podcast a lifeboat hour

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and took his own life with a gunshot to

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the head and it really pains me because

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I feel like Mike was dealing with the

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frustration of dedicating himself to

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fighting the corrupt power structure for

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decades watching the planet in society

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decay and seeing 95% of people stand by

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and do nothing and I sympathize with

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that and it's just kind of a sad day for

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our team isn't it yeah Michael's been

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around for a while and I think he's had

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a lot of profound influence on a lot of

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conspiracy researchers and he's

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definitely stood the test of time

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as far as his credibility and his

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willingness to reveal the truth yeah man

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I've already seen several alternative

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news sites and people come out and say

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you know don't believe the hype that it

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was a suicide and I just say you know

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sometimes things really are just what

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they seem to be and I'm not really

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surprised that he would do that it seems

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like if you watched apocalypse man if

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you listened to his recent interviews he

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seemed like he had given up I mean he

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said in the in our interview I asked him

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you know where's the hope for the future

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and he basically said there is none we

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are in a situation of accepting defeat

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and when someone is in that mind state

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to hear something like this would happen

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isn't super surprising although it is

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super frustrating to lose such a

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powerful voice in the alternative

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movement you know someone I really think

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we needed when our numbers aren't very

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strong anyway right and you know

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unfortunately there's a lot of

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conspiracy theorists out there who every

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time there's some sort of big event or

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you know somebody in the conspiracy

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research community dies they

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automatically think that you know it was

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a conspiracy but what I like to do is

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wait for a while and let things kind of

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filter through and you know look at

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information from both sides and sort of

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weed out the the crap and then hold on

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to it to what seems credible and you

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know again unfortunately I think he did

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take his own life and you know if you

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don't have hope I mean what do you have

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to live for really that's what it comes

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down to but I myself am hopeful and

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hopefully I'll stay that way but you

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know rest in peace Michael Rupert yeah

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man well depressing news aside before we

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bring Frederick's in here what's been

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going on in the paranoia world well I

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recently moved to a bigger store it's in

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basically it's in the same building on

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630 C Street in downtown

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San Diego so that's good and then I last

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night I just put together the the final

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roster for the upcoming paranoia con

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which is going to be August 2nd and 3rd

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and in the same building I have my store

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in so I'm pretty excited about that so

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I'll have that all that information on

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mind control in the art of Illusion so

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I'm really excited about those two

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upcoming events yeah man those things

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sound awesome the first paranoia con was

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great spend a lot of time hanging out

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with Adam go Riley I know a lot of

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Phillips who the audience should be

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familiar with it was also the place

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where I met Lennon on ER who has been

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one of my favorite guests on the show so

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I would really encourage people to come

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out to that and support the alternative

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movement and meet some of these speakers

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that you hear on podcast such as this

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one well anyway that said I'm really

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looking forward to it and Fredericks

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today's guest is going to be a speaker

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there and I think he is ready that for

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us to bring them in so here's a little

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plug for the THC Money bomb for anyone

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wants to play the game and help the show

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at the same time and Ron and I will be

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on the other side with secret society

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socialite Frederick's hey people I gotta

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take a second to tell you about

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something we do around here called the

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THC Money bomb what I do is every five

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episodes total up the donations I've

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gotten in that period of time a half

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keeps me and the show going I take the

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other half my gift that back to a random

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listener so far we're hitting about 500

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each round and I couldn't be happier

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about it

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so consider throwing in five or ten

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bucks it's cheaper than a hand at the

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blackjack table with better odds and a

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scratch-off ticket plus you know half

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supports the show you like and at the

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very least half will go to a like-minded

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person who could probably use a nice

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surprise

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times when you make a donation I can see

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your email address and that's how I pick

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the winner but to keep things kosher you

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can also get in the pool by sending your

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info on a postcard to me Gregg Karl

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would p.o box 6 3 5 2 2 3 San Diego

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California 9 2 1 6 3 like I've snow paid

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bonus shows and I want to keep it that

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way

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on principle but I'm not a millionaire

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at the podcast on the side this is it

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for me and I'm the only one I know is

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trying to help the people out as well so

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help me help you if you want to play

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along go to the higher side shad stack

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Cobb / donate and get in the game

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dollars bitcoins it's all good to me and

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alright people I'll say it again but as

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backwards as this world may seem it

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hasn't happened by accident our modern

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society is the result of centuries worth

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of careful crafting by powerful groups

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that blanket our history Entertainment

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education and damn near everything with

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their influence and while we live in a

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powerful age of information it's

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increasingly difficult to find the truth

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and clarity among the various roadblocks

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of propaganda and misinformation and

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that is one of the main reasons we

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brought in today's guest a crucial

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researcher lecturer and author for these

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troubled times and a personal member of

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nine different esoteric orders including

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the Knights Templar the ancient order of

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the Druids and the masonic rows of

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christians just to name a few

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he's a master of masonry a secret

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society socialite and a teller of sacred

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truth Frederick's welcome to the show ah

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thank you so much Greg I'm just excited

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to be here I'm glad that we could

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finally get this interview I'm sorry

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about the reschedule but you know when

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you get sick nature takes over you can't

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really call the shots you know yeah man

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no worries no worries I'm super psyched

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to have you here as well and I have to

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say I like you and I like your work but

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a lot of listeners will hear member of

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nine secret orders and get a little bit

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skeptical I mean we've had Mason's on

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the show before who usually paint their

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Brotherhood in a positive light kind of

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equating them to nothing more than a

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couple of buddies having a beer and

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reading up on the Hermetic

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but clearly some of these folks they've

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shaped our world for the worse

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with so much deceit how can you tell

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who's really on the right side of the

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people man well you know that's that's a

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really good question and that's what

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we'll set about to do in this chat today

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you know it's trying to unpack that and

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you know rest assured all your listeners

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can think of me as an infiltrator I mean

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I'm about on the precipice of complete

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resignation from most of the Masonic

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orders as we speak I've already started

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to withdraw from different orders you

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know and and honestly one of the main

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reasons is economics you got to keep up

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with these dues and all these orders it

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cost a lot of money and I really can't

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afford it personally I mean the whole

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quest I had was a quest for knowledge

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and quest for understanding to try to

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demystify this whole this whole thing

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and you know you exactly as you said

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there there are plenty of people that

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can tell you oh you know masonry is just

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a bunch of whole guys planning a

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barbecue or a pancake breakfast you know

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and charitable organizations and yeah it

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is all that - but what people don't

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realize is that when somebody joins

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masonry that opens them up for

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membership and some say over a thousand

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different side orders and organizations

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that you don't even know exist until

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they tap you to join yeah man that's one

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of the weirdest aspects of it and

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trivial all these different offshoots

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kind of like offshoots of religions you

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know Baptist Lutheran and it's like a

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little bit silly it's like what do you

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what what's so different like why do we

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need all this and I kind of get that

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vibe from masonry secret societies as

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differences here and I mean are at the

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top are they all kind of working

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together towards the same goal or are

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they all kind of fighting for pieces of

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the power pie or how exactly is this

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situation structured well I think it's a

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little bit of both those things but I

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think it's you can think of it as one of

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those Russian dolls where the the doll

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fits inside the doll which fits in size

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it all all the way down you know until

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you got this really tiny doll that's

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like the smallest little group of

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bankster thugs you know what I mean that

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are like in this little side order

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called the Brotherhood of banksters or

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whatever I don't

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know what they are because I'm not a

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bankster you know what I mean but you

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got to be one to join right and that's

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how it is it's these it's it's all about

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you know misdirection of awareness and

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keep the you know keep three-card Monte

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follow the Queen keep it moving you know

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so you never really know well you know

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is one guy seems to be a member of all

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these specific groups and he's also in

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the trilateral commission or the you

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know Council on Foreign Relations or

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he's in the Century Club or he's you

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know former CIA you know which is not

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real you can't really be former CIA but

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right at the very top of Masonic

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education in America today is s Brent

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Morris who I personally met outside of

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Washington DC who told me right to my

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face that he was a in a CIA cryptography

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department and that he was you know

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that's is that was his job when he

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wasn't writing the complete idiots guide

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to Freemasonry which is what he wrote

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and that's what he's he's the guy you

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see the ball guy on History Channel or

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any other ones with a has a bird face

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with glasses yeah yeah and he's

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freakishly tall too by the way I don't

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know if anything but yeah guys I mean

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bottom line is there is a secret war on

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human consciousness and that's my battle

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cry right now I'm promoting that I wrote

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an article that was published in

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paranoia magazine the the fall issue I

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was so psyched to be a part of the 50th

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anniversary JFK assassination issue of

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paranoia magazine and you know which I

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consider a prestigious conspiracy reader

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among all the other literature out there

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you know and I'm glad to have our friend

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Ron Patton with us right yeah

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hey Frederick's I'm really honored that

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you were able to write for us for that

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particular issue and you have a another

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article coming up don't you yeah you're

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like come on now where is it

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yeah I'm working on a new article it's

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calling it fallen angels

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basically it's Giants monsters and dark

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occulted mystics in America where I'm

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talking about this very thing you know

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looking at the dark side of politics and

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social engineering you know and and how

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it all fits in with these four

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colonel you know Western tradition

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fraternal orders and how the concentric

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rings line up really you know and lead

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us to this military-industrial complex

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Empire we're all you know trying to

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survive in today right right so what are

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you gonna be talking about it the

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paranoiac on this coming August well you

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know I actually just came back from

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Austin Texas where I kind of touched

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upon a lot of the stuff that I'm gonna

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go over in the in the research I mean we

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basically everything I had to say it was

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funny it was like they were just so

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receptive to the talks about well first

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of all let's talk about the Nephilim I

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don't know how many people out there

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even know what this term is but it's a

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real hot topic right now as a matter of

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fact it's one of the tag terms that is

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the highest hitter on my all my you know

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media outlets online that Nephilim

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fallen angels Noah the flood you know

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black magic all these things are

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connected and I just did a show about

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Noah the Nephilim in the flood on a

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different radio interview and it's

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online you can find it very easily just

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by real quick search but we're gonna

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touch upon a lot of this in the new

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article and presentation at the

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paranoiac on we're gonna talk about the

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it says it's like a hidden history

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that's right with it you know hidden in

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plain sight once again but excised from

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the Bible for example but in many

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cultures around the world and it turns

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out right here in America it turns out

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you know in the nineteenth century they

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were digging up giant and weird strange

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creature remains all over America and

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with impunity and everyone was

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completely ok with the idea that there

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was races of giants running around in

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North America thousands of years ago I

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mean even Abraham Lincoln gave a speech

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in the 1840s where he mentioned the

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Giants who were peering at the mound a

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mound building Giants of North America

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and they're you know how long ago they

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had been looking at Niagara Falls

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because he was at Niagara Falls given a

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speech and he so he made this offhand

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reference to the Giants and the

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connection with the mound builders which

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people who don't realize there are

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thousands you know there are mounds all

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over North America which have been

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attributed to various cultures and

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tribes of Indians and ancient you know

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civilizations that it just goes on and

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on the speculation but what we know for

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certain is that the evidence has been

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suppressed every every account I've

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looked into with talks of giants or

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strange creatures that have been dug up

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in America we find the Smithsonian

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Institute steps in and takes over

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everything takes all the evidence and

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sweeps it all away and it's like rolled

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into that big room where they've got the

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you know the Ark of the Covenant with

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all the boxes with no labels on them you

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know they out there in California right

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on Catalina Island off the coast of LA

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there was a giant museum that was run by

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the Wrigley family until the 30s in a

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matter really yeah they actually exhumed

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thousands of giant remains out of

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caverns on Catalina Island created a

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giant Museum and they were selling

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pieces of giant bones in the gift shop

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oh yeah they had five hundred photos of

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all the evidence people from all over

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the world came and in viewed them and

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then the Smithsonian Institute carted

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away all the remains after they shut it

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down in the 30s

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never saw any of that stuff again just

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gone I mean there was there was uh there

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was one giant remain that was pulled out

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of a hole in the ground in Ojai right on

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the border of Ohio and Indiana that was

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18 feet tall

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he had a nine foot long iron sword and

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an iron helmet and people from all

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around hundreds of people came and

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viewed it in a big you know they sold

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tickets for tourists to come and look at

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it and then it was carted off by the

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Smithsonian Institute and never to be

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seen again I mean it just keeps going on

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and on now why do I keep talking about

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Giants I mentioned the Nephilim right

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well in the scripture in Bible Old

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Testament Genesis chapter six there is a

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reference to when when the when men

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began to multiply on the earth and the

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daughters of Adam were born the sons of

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God or the sons of heaven saw how

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beautiful the daughters were and so they

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took them for their wives

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and they bred with them and they created

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these what they said in one you know it

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depending on the translation one of them

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says Giants monsters strange beasts

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heroes of renown

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monsters and strange beasts and Giants

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you know like Hercules or you know Percy

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answer the CCS or any of those guys and

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and what we have is a real dot connector

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if you will because you start realizing

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that when you look in all the cultures

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of the world you have these stories of

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demigods like heroes and supermen that

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do these amazing things and you wonder

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where that comes from

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well there's this mono myth maybe that

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these giants or these beings came down

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from the heavens and bred with the

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daughters of Adam right and had

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half-breed hybrids that they called the

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Nephilim the beings that came down in

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the scripture like in the Book of Enoch

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which is a non mechanical text and you

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know meaning it doesn't it's not

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included in the Bible Canon but it was

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still a book that you know Jesus

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mentioned Enochs something like Brian

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30-plus times in the New Testament I

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mean he was a very important figure but

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for some reason they saw fit to excise

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that book but at the Book of Enoch of

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course was in the Dead Sea Scrolls and

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it was in fact you know it was it was a

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book that was very very important you

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know but according to the Book of Enoch

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the that was the real reason for the

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flood was that these these Watchers came

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down that's what they were called the

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Watchers the fallen angels they came

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down they bred with the humans and they

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also taught him a bunch of dark spooky

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stuff okay according to the Book of

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Enoch they taught him black magic and

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necromancy and all the strange arts that

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that were you know out of order with

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heaven and the order of things at a time

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that's now we're just looking at one

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version of events but yes but you know

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there's more than one if you look across

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the cultures into the even in America

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back with the Mesoamerican tribes you

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had many Indian cultures the the Paiute

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Indians there was a book written in the

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nineteenth century called life with the

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Paiutes where they talked about fighting

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a giant race they had to actually kill

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them because they were eating here

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there were cannibals they were you know

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and they were eating all the food and

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eating the humans and they were monsters

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so they had to drive him into a big

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cavern in the ground and then they

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burned him up they thought they burned

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him out and I mean that's that's the

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Paiute said so every culture has this

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reference to killing off Giants a long

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time ago so okay what's the point the

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point is when you look at secret

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societies one of the main reasons why I

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got involved in researching the rituals

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and the ceremonies is because the

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secrets that are contained within secret

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society what were this you know what are

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the secrets what's the kernel

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what's the seed truth in the very center

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that his whole system has been unfolded

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and you know developed out of well what

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you find when you look in the center is

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you find a perennial theme over and over

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again certain symbols certain emblems

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certain themes being repeated and one of

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them is interaction with preternatural

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beings that are extra dimensional if you

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will a hyperdimensional they call them

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eat grigory's it's a strange term it

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comes from the Greek it goes back to

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though the Watchers to the angels to the

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you've angelicum the messengers of the

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divine but it's a it's a sort of you

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know it's a dark side to it you know it

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basically how it goes is this in the

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Book of Enoch it talks about God

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actually caused the flood to happen to

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wipe out all the blasphemy all the all

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the abominations that have occurred with

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the reading of the angels and man and

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this you know I imagined it as the time

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of like Conan you know with like sort of

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all kinds of crazy stuff going on but

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during that time they wiped them out you

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know and and that's the thing about

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these Nephilim these offsprings of

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angels and man they're half divine and

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half earthbound half mortal so when they

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were killed off their souls were bound

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to the earth this is the legend that's

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in the Book of Enoch they could not be

541
00:22:01,280 --> 00:21:59,280
they could not be released so these

542
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:01,290
spirits of the dead Nephilim actually

543
00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:03,450
become in my thinking in and many other

544
00:22:07,550 --> 00:22:05,400
people's thinking the evil spirits that

545
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:07,560
haunted Humanity for the last couple

546
00:22:11,570 --> 00:22:09,570
millennium and you know one more thing

547
00:22:14,420 --> 00:22:11,580
to say to to cap that off but people

548
00:22:16,430 --> 00:22:14,430
realize is the Nephilim and the moochers

549
00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:16,440
were interacting on the earth for over a

550
00:22:21,230 --> 00:22:18,750
millennium because from the time of

551
00:22:24,050 --> 00:22:21,240
Jared in the Bible to the time of Noah

552
00:22:25,730 --> 00:22:24,060
and Noah was 600 years old they said in

553
00:22:27,530 --> 00:22:25,740
the Bible when the flood happened from

554
00:22:29,780 --> 00:22:27,540
the time of Jared to that time of Noah

555
00:22:32,750 --> 00:22:29,790
who Jared was Noah's great-great-great

556
00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:32,760
grandfather his name means born in the

557
00:22:36,740 --> 00:22:34,710
time of the descent meaning the time of

558
00:22:40,490 --> 00:22:36,750
the Watchers descent so from that time

559
00:22:42,830 --> 00:22:40,500
to Noah was 1,000 196 years that's how

560
00:22:46,190 --> 00:22:42,840
long the Watchers in interacted with

561
00:22:48,290 --> 00:22:46,200
humanity before the flood happened so so

562
00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:48,300
you think about that these evil spirits

563
00:22:52,340 --> 00:22:50,790
and you wonder about rituals and groups

564
00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:52,350
of people that come together and do a

565
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:54,600
thing in ritual pattern over and over

566
00:22:59,150 --> 00:22:56,610
again and what kind of energy thought

567
00:23:01,550 --> 00:22:59,160
being would form around especially with

568
00:23:05,060 --> 00:23:01,560
the intent of some individuals not being

569
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,070
you know the best intentions yeah man

570
00:23:09,050 --> 00:23:07,440
that's that's a powerful story there I

571
00:23:12,050 --> 00:23:09,060
mean I've heard a lot of that before

572
00:23:14,210 --> 00:23:12,060
from other guests who talk about some of

573
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,220
the secrets within these orders and it

574
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:16,320
just it seems weird to me because I

575
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:19,050
wonder what the real goal is because in

576
00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:20,730
modern times I would assume it's just

577
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:23,880
wealth and power and control but it

578
00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:26,610
always seems to be so rooted in things

579
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:29,310
in like biblical texts and ancient texts

580
00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:32,370
and traditions and symbols and I just

581
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:35,100
wonder if all that is really so

582
00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:38,210
necessary for wealth control and power

583
00:23:45,050 --> 00:23:41,280
well I think I think you know what

584
00:23:46,460 --> 00:23:45,060
happened is a long time ago what what

585
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:46,470
happened really you know if you want to

586
00:23:51,020 --> 00:23:48,330
put it into a grand scale a grand scale

587
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:51,030
for expansive view right now of the let

588
00:23:55,910 --> 00:23:53,970
the latest human history I think 10 to

589
00:23:58,940 --> 00:23:55,920
13 thousand years ago there was a giant

590
00:24:01,460 --> 00:23:58,950
worldwide Cataclysm probably one of many

591
00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:01,470
but a really big one and it really wiped

592
00:24:05,180 --> 00:24:03,150
out a lot of stuff I mean it wiped

593
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:05,190
everything out and most people 90%

594
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:06,960
probably and the ones that were left

595
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:09,090
were like in post-traumatic stress

596
00:24:14,450 --> 00:24:11,760
disorder shock you know and so I mean

597
00:24:15,980 --> 00:24:14,460
all of humanity as a whole collective

598
00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:15,990
consciousness was probably knocked

599
00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:19,260
offline and at that point there was some

600
00:24:24,659 --> 00:24:22,830
other extra species consciousness I

601
00:24:27,869 --> 00:24:24,669
don't know if it was outside or inside

602
00:24:31,249 --> 00:24:27,879
but it was a pathogen a mind virus that

603
00:24:33,989 --> 00:24:31,259
infested our species and this predator

604
00:24:36,299 --> 00:24:33,999
understood human mindscape and

605
00:24:38,909 --> 00:24:36,309
understood that we could be you know

606
00:24:41,369 --> 00:24:38,919
brought back online in a safe mode like

607
00:24:43,769 --> 00:24:41,379
after a computer crashes and kept in a

608
00:24:45,690 --> 00:24:43,779
really really simple applications and

609
00:24:48,299 --> 00:24:45,700
platforms you know and that then like

610
00:24:50,009 --> 00:24:48,309
this collective disorder was that you

611
00:24:53,129 --> 00:24:50,019
know would divert enough of humanity

612
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:53,139
away from its tribal hunter-gatherer

613
00:24:57,950 --> 00:24:55,289
subsistence existence into a you know

614
00:25:00,599 --> 00:24:57,960
city-state control structure where

615
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,609
accumulation and profit is gold you know

616
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,039
and that existence where Authority was

617
00:25:07,470 --> 00:25:05,200
justified by a select priesthood that

618
00:25:09,989 --> 00:25:07,480
was use it for its obedience and its

619
00:25:12,749 --> 00:25:09,999
skill with perpetuating the ruling

620
00:25:14,729 --> 00:25:12,759
paradigm that just reinforced by

621
00:25:17,489 --> 00:25:14,739
military might of the state whether it

622
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:17,499
be a dictatorship or a Republican a

623
00:25:21,090 --> 00:25:19,210
Republican really makes no difference

624
00:25:23,070 --> 00:25:21,100
right because it's just you just need to

625
00:25:25,259 --> 00:25:23,080
have like the control meme you know like

626
00:25:28,379 --> 00:25:25,269
a civic mythology that just keeps

627
00:25:30,539 --> 00:25:28,389
everybody in line and so we are really

628
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:30,549
really susceptible to suggestion

629
00:25:35,369 --> 00:25:33,039
humanity as a species we're very very

630
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:35,379
highly prone to error we make mistake

631
00:25:40,109 --> 00:25:37,450
you know we make mistake I make mistakes

632
00:25:42,210 --> 00:25:40,119
over time right and we're prone to that

633
00:25:43,710 --> 00:25:42,220
and we're prone to novelty to we're

634
00:25:46,019 --> 00:25:43,720
prone to doing crazy things that

635
00:25:47,789 --> 00:25:46,029
completely off the wall and out of left

636
00:25:49,379 --> 00:25:47,799
field like didn't see that one coming

637
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:49,389
you know what I mean that's that's a

638
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:50,710
good thing though really that's what's

639
00:25:54,180 --> 00:25:52,690
gonna save us in my mind because the

640
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:54,190
control structures don't know what to do

641
00:25:57,810 --> 00:25:55,840
with novelty they don't know how to

642
00:26:00,180 --> 00:25:57,820
handle you know completely off the wall

643
00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:00,190
behavior on you know you know

644
00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:02,350
unpredictable behavior non-compliance

645
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:04,600
unpredictable non-compliance is the is

646
00:26:10,049 --> 00:26:06,129
the way of the revolution as far as I'm

647
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:10,059
concerned I'm with you man and that that

648
00:26:14,609 --> 00:26:11,769
explanation makes a lot of sense to me

649
00:26:16,739 --> 00:26:14,619
too I mean considering the secretive

650
00:26:19,349 --> 00:26:16,749
nature of these orders and the Masonic

651
00:26:21,149 --> 00:26:19,359
connections to being architects and

652
00:26:23,549 --> 00:26:21,159
builders there seems to be an element of

653
00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:23,559
pushing the planet towards a global

654
00:26:28,379 --> 00:26:26,230
disaster like another Cataclysm today so

655
00:26:30,299 --> 00:26:28,389
that they can come in and once the slate

656
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,309
has been wiped clean now their

657
00:26:33,629 --> 00:26:31,840
traditions of building and architecture

658
00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:33,639
would be very useful and they could

659
00:26:37,379 --> 00:26:35,830
quickly start rebuilding and get us

660
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:37,389
under their thumb again you think that's

661
00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:38,050
the reason

662
00:26:44,250 --> 00:26:40,600
for these orders remain such secrecy

663
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:44,260
over centuries and generations to be in

664
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:46,570
that power position absolutely your

665
00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:48,640
hidden your hidden upon some really

666
00:26:53,810 --> 00:26:50,920
important factors because see what we

667
00:26:56,370 --> 00:26:53,820
know is is that a long time ago

668
00:26:59,610 --> 00:26:56,380
catastrophe was commandeered and

669
00:27:02,520 --> 00:26:59,620
utilized to coerce humanity through fear

670
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:02,530
intellect routine patterns of mediocrity

671
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:05,580
you know steeped in narrow bandwidth of

672
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:08,170
potentiality like what's possible what

673
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:09,850
can we really accomplish right so the

674
00:27:13,710 --> 00:27:11,770
people would stay you know in a herded

675
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:13,720
mentality you know keep your head down

676
00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:16,000
and watch out for the disasters you know

677
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:17,350
we're we're here to help we're here to

678
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:19,510
save and and these secret orders have

679
00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:22,570
utilized for building tools absolutely

680
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:25,900
not only is it involved it invokes you

681
00:27:30,390 --> 00:27:28,390
know it retro actively invokes a genetic

682
00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:30,400
memory and us all because who were the

683
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:32,830
most important people after disasters

684
00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:35,770
builders people who can rebuild you want

685
00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:37,630
the guy that knows how to build right up

686
00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:40,420
front and he's had him calling the shots

687
00:27:46,110 --> 00:27:43,750
so who becomes the leader a builder you

688
00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:46,120
know cuz he can call the shots he tells

689
00:27:49,530 --> 00:27:47,830
you what to do you guys go over there

690
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:49,540
and get rocks you guys go over there and

691
00:27:52,590 --> 00:27:51,250
get wood you guys start digging a hole

692
00:27:53,610 --> 00:27:52,600
we're gonna make a house right here you

693
00:27:56,370 --> 00:27:53,620
know what I mean that's the way it is

694
00:27:58,050 --> 00:27:56,380
and so that's why they assume the

695
00:28:00,390 --> 00:27:58,060
position of hierarchy you know that the

696
00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:00,400
priesthood is the builders and so

697
00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:02,590
they're invoking that memory in us from

698
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:04,600
the past but absolutely keeping us

699
00:28:10,050 --> 00:28:07,600
always anxious for the the coming

700
00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:10,060
shortage the great limitation of

701
00:28:14,370 --> 00:28:12,190
Cataclysm that's coming everybody be

702
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,380
afraid be very afraid it's gonna happen

703
00:28:20,670 --> 00:28:16,240
any second the world's gonna will open

704
00:28:23,580 --> 00:28:20,680
up wide we're all gonna fall in yeah man

705
00:28:25,650 --> 00:28:23,590
it's it seems like fixing society today

706
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:25,660
would be insurmountable hard because the

707
00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:27,610
manipulation is so powerful and

708
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:29,590
multi-layered and so embedded in our

709
00:28:33,030 --> 00:28:31,510
culture and our knowledge of history and

710
00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:33,040
our even our very language is

711
00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:35,080
manipulated to make us think one way or

712
00:28:38,610 --> 00:28:37,030
another it seems so hard to get the

713
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:38,620
programming out of anyone I mean do you

714
00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:42,490
think this could ever be done yeah you

715
00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:43,990
know George Orwell wrote a wrote an

716
00:28:47,790 --> 00:28:45,670
article called the politics of language

717
00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:47,800
you know and there's a book called

718
00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:50,980
general semantics by Alfred Korzybski

719
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:52,780
which is talks about how language is

720
00:28:57,210 --> 00:28:55,600
used to structure reality Robert Anton

721
00:29:00,210 --> 00:28:57,220
Wilson talks a lot about that as well

722
00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:00,220
you know that this is the reality folks

723
00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:03,580
we are living in the most mentally

724
00:29:07,730 --> 00:29:06,070
controlled period of humanity I think

725
00:29:09,780 --> 00:29:07,740
and it's you know it's helped along

726
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:09,790
tremendously by the internet obviously

727
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:12,040
because I mean for every service the

728
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:14,110
internet provides it also enslaves us

729
00:29:18,659 --> 00:29:16,000
all because we're all caught up in a

730
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,669
consensual reality right hundred percent

731
00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:20,320
agrees I'm seeing that more and more I

732
00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:21,790
used to think the internet was the

733
00:29:27,270 --> 00:29:24,340
global elites biggest mistake but now

734
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:27,280
I'm seeing more tools of use for it for

735
00:29:31,169 --> 00:29:29,049
their side because they all everybody

736
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:31,179
rebels in the Information Age and it's a

737
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:32,650
delightful time but I feel like we're

738
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:34,690
falling into another Dark Age you know I

739
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,610
mean we're really people are you know

740
00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:38,080
you know in the land of the blind the

741
00:29:46,620 --> 00:29:39,790
one-eyed man is king and I'm feeling

742
00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:46,630
pretty kingly I mean that's what it

743
00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:48,220
comes down to and you know getting into

744
00:29:52,409 --> 00:29:49,390
it what you talk about is there any hope

745
00:29:55,169 --> 00:29:52,419
you know it's like I don't know Greg I

746
00:29:57,450 --> 00:29:55,179
don't know because men listen we we had

747
00:29:58,980 --> 00:29:57,460
a revolution in this country 250 years

748
00:30:01,049 --> 00:29:58,990
ago you know give or take or whatever

749
00:30:03,870 --> 00:30:01,059
you know but what happened right I mean

750
00:30:06,090 --> 00:30:03,880
before the revolution even ended the

751
00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:06,100
bankster thugs already had a charter for

752
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:08,230
a central bank set up in America before

753
00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:10,000
they even sign the Treaty of Paris and

754
00:30:14,340 --> 00:30:12,340
then that's the real core issue here I

755
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:14,350
keep talking about banksters thugs

756
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:18,130
because it is that mentality of creating

757
00:30:22,590 --> 00:30:20,320
wealth out of nothing and feeding upon

758
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:22,600
the production of others that's what

759
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:24,370
banks are all about their wealth

760
00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:28,240
extraction devices they're brought in to

761
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:31,150
prevent people from prospering I mean

762
00:30:35,850 --> 00:30:33,520
that's the key and we saw it happen in

763
00:30:37,289 --> 00:30:35,860
America right away first you know the

764
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:37,299
first central bank in America was

765
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,450
founded by Alexander Hamilton right you

766
00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:42,720
know he was thought to be a friggin

767
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:45,700
Illuminati agent even then Rothschild

768
00:30:51,270 --> 00:30:48,730
agent right he sets up a central bank it

769
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:51,280
fails completely they didn't even renew

770
00:30:56,250 --> 00:30:53,290
the first charter because all I did was

771
00:30:58,049 --> 00:30:56,260
call caused financial ruin in its wake I

772
00:30:59,610 --> 00:30:58,059
mean it was the worst possible thing

773
00:31:01,140 --> 00:30:59,620
that could have happened and so what do

774
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:01,150
they do they set up another one right

775
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:03,010
they set up another one it goes they

776
00:31:07,169 --> 00:31:05,200
this time they give it a longer

777
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:07,179
so it can't be shut down as quick right

778
00:31:12,029 --> 00:31:10,000
same thing 1811 when they were supposed

779
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:12,039
to renew the Charter they wouldn't renew

780
00:31:16,289 --> 00:31:13,990
it congresswoman and guess who made a

781
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:16,299
big stink about it Nathan Rothschild

782
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:19,120
English banker from international bank

783
00:31:23,010 --> 00:31:20,890
store thugs he actually threatened

784
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:23,020
America and said if you don't do this

785
00:31:27,659 --> 00:31:25,450
then we're gonna friggin you know you'll

786
00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:27,669
be blood in the streets right everybody

787
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:30,070
knows what happened 1812 we went to war

788
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:32,710
and what happens when we go to war we go

789
00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:34,510
into debt to bankers because we borrow

790
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,400
money for the war and then when we got

791
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:38,080
out of the war when they cut me know he

792
00:31:41,250 --> 00:31:39,760
wrote up the papers inside we had to

793
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:41,260
sign a charter for another central bank

794
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:42,250
right then and there

795
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,289
that's how the whole thing was planned

796
00:31:48,899 --> 00:31:46,480
to get us back onto a central banking

797
00:31:50,639 --> 00:31:48,909
system so that we get to when to the to

798
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:50,649
the turn of the century you know Jekyll

799
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:52,570
Island and the the birth of the Federal

800
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:54,850
Reserve banking system which is the

801
00:31:59,639 --> 00:31:57,130
perfection of wealth extraction and the

802
00:32:02,909 --> 00:31:59,649
first thing that happens right in 1933

803
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:02,919
are FDR's made president they go ahead

804
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:06,730
and they put out the 1934 gold act which

805
00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:08,049
tells all Americans they have to

806
00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:10,120
surrender their gold immediately or

807
00:32:15,690 --> 00:32:11,980
they'll be put in jail for 10 years and

808
00:32:17,789 --> 00:32:15,700
they get $20 and 66 cents per ounce of

809
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:17,799
gold that they turn in right so when the

810
00:32:21,210 --> 00:32:19,330
Federal Reserve ends up with all the

811
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:21,220
gold then they turn around in two years

812
00:32:26,639 --> 00:32:23,890
later they raise the rate of gold from

813
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:26,649
20 dollars and 60 cents to 35 dollars an

814
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,570
ounce which makes a three billion dollar

815
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:31,120
profit for the Federal Reserve and then

816
00:32:34,889 --> 00:32:33,370
after that that's the last time they

817
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:34,899
audit the gold in Fort Knox

818
00:32:39,539 --> 00:32:37,120
nobody even realizes that what happens

819
00:32:42,570 --> 00:32:39,549
very quietly for the next 50 years is

820
00:32:44,370 --> 00:32:42,580
they shift the gold from Fort Knox into

821
00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:44,380
the vaults of the Federal Reserve under

822
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:47,020
the auspices of collateral for continued

823
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:49,450
money production and the you know the

824
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,250
debt that's created from the interest on

825
00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:53,440
the bills that they're printing for us

826
00:32:57,659 --> 00:32:55,750
and so when Ronald Reagan tries to bring

827
00:32:59,159 --> 00:32:57,669
us back on the gold standard they do an

828
00:33:00,510 --> 00:32:59,169
audit well they can't even do a real

829
00:33:01,769 --> 00:33:00,520
audit they're not allowed to it's like

830
00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:01,779
all these you know red tape and

831
00:33:05,789 --> 00:33:03,700
everything but what they find out number

832
00:33:08,370 --> 00:33:05,799
one is there is no gold in Fort Knox

833
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:08,380
it's all in the Federal Reserve and

834
00:33:12,029 --> 00:33:10,330
they're holding it as collateral for all

835
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:12,039
the money that we you know that we owe

836
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:14,289
them now for them doing what Congress

837
00:33:18,390 --> 00:33:16,330
can already do according to the

838
00:33:20,190 --> 00:33:18,400
Constitution right yeah but

839
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:20,200
that's really what it's about and it's

840
00:33:24,390 --> 00:33:22,810
the sad and simple truth I used to think

841
00:33:27,510 --> 00:33:24,400
there was some you know I mean there is

842
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:27,520
there is some dramatic and scary stuff

843
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:29,290
that are going on all over the place we

844
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:31,570
can speculate and recount all kinds of

845
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:34,000
crazy tales of dark occult and mysticism

846
00:33:38,730 --> 00:33:36,640
everywhere but in the bottom line it

847
00:33:43,550 --> 00:33:38,740
seems as if it's really just about money

848
00:33:46,530 --> 00:33:43,560
and banks and greed right and fraud or X

849
00:33:49,410 --> 00:33:46,540
there has it with in recent history

850
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:49,420
there's been a few conspiracy

851
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:53,410
researchers who've surmised that they're

852
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,110
like 13 Illuminati families that

853
00:34:01,860 --> 00:33:58,240
essentially run the world

854
00:34:04,650 --> 00:34:01,870
one being Johnny Todd back in the 1980s

855
00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:04,660
and more recently Fritz Spring Meyer who

856
00:34:09,899 --> 00:34:07,030
wrote a book called the 13 Illuminati

857
00:34:13,409 --> 00:34:09,909
bloodlines what do you think of that

858
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:13,419
theory is there any credence to it well

859
00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:14,890
I think so at first of all I've met

860
00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:18,220
Fritz at the freemind conference - he's

861
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,409
a really great guy there's a gentle

862
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:22,480
spirit I mean the man is just amazing

863
00:34:25,950 --> 00:34:23,919
his life story and what he's gone

864
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:25,960
through and his ability to be is

865
00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:27,850
positive his he is it's amazing it

866
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:29,710
really is a testament I think to you

867
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:31,390
know what the human will can accomplish

868
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:34,210
and overcome you know but he definitely

869
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:36,250
has hit upon something I don't know what

870
00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:37,690
the numbers are I've heard all kinds of

871
00:34:43,649 --> 00:34:39,880
different you know 80 families I've

872
00:34:45,570 --> 00:34:43,659
heard the 13 families but in the end

873
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:45,580
yeah there's definitely a it's a

874
00:34:50,909 --> 00:34:47,890
bankster family that's what it is it's a

875
00:34:54,060 --> 00:34:50,919
financial institution family a legacy of

876
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:54,070
Finance ears who are you know the ones

877
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,810
set in the standards you know that just

878
00:34:58,890 --> 00:34:57,520
basically probably possess all about

879
00:35:02,100 --> 00:34:58,900
most important resources and all the

880
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:02,110
gold yeah and do it and you're free your

881
00:35:06,210 --> 00:35:04,090
mind conference presentation you did a

882
00:35:08,070 --> 00:35:06,220
great job of breaking down all the false

883
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:08,080
flags that have dragged us down a

884
00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:09,730
warpath for almost all of America's

885
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:12,790
existence which you just Kron alized in

886
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:16,330
terms of financing and in gold but this

887
00:35:19,590 --> 00:35:18,010
stuff I guess it shouldn't be news to

888
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:19,600
anyone here you know we should all be

889
00:35:26,130 --> 00:35:22,570
kind of a awakened to that pattern but

890
00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:26,140
how do you see them twisting it for

891
00:35:29,310 --> 00:35:27,700
modern times I mean what's the

892
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:29,320
trajectory of their plan do you see any

893
00:35:32,070 --> 00:35:30,880
new tricks that they're working on that

894
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:32,080
we should be aware of

895
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:34,480
well I think that it's it's an old

896
00:35:40,220 --> 00:35:38,290
tricks being rehashed and reapply and

897
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:40,230
re-entered in it's always about

898
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:44,770
co-opting trends and and cycles you know

899
00:35:50,250 --> 00:35:48,970
and and fads and pointy thing sorry to

900
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,260
cut you off but do you think that that

901
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:52,480
right there is there management of that

902
00:35:56,610 --> 00:35:55,270
novelty you were talking about that's

903
00:35:59,520 --> 00:35:56,620
the way that I think that's the way that

904
00:36:01,490 --> 00:35:59,530
they keep us captivated is by inserting

905
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:01,500
as much of their own you know

906
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:04,560
counterfeit stimuli right alongside

907
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:07,690
whatever's driving the latest novelty so

908
00:36:12,030 --> 00:36:09,610
there's constantly and overlaying and

909
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:12,040
overlaying and overlaying of repetitive

910
00:36:16,590 --> 00:36:13,510
themes that's why you see so many

911
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:16,600
formulaic media you know vehicles it's

912
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:18,610
all formulaic it's all retrofit

913
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:21,280
retrograde for you keep seeing remakes

914
00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:23,530
of everything and you know there's you

915
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:25,600
see the new version of an old theme it's

916
00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:27,520
always like that because that keeps us

917
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:28,990
thinking in those ways so that when they

918
00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:31,690
put out a deliberate evocative theme

919
00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:33,400
something they want you to think about

920
00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:35,740
like exploiting Masonic or Egyptian

921
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:39,550
iconography using that in 1970s are I

922
00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:41,890
the Stanford Research there is they put

923
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:43,720
out a report telling the government that

924
00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:45,510
the best way to hurt the American

925
00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:47,980
collective consciousness was to use

926
00:36:52,770 --> 00:36:50,950
Masonic and an Egyptian economy you know

927
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:52,780
and that we were all headed in the 21st

928
00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:55,450
century to a mass awakening and if you

929
00:36:59,340 --> 00:36:57,190
wanted to Shepherd us in one direction

930
00:37:02,130 --> 00:36:59,350
or another then you better use these

931
00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:02,140
symbols and emblems to do it and look

932
00:37:07,170 --> 00:37:03,910
what happened look at the movies and

933
00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:07,180
music and television saturated in

934
00:37:13,110 --> 00:37:09,670
Masonic and Egyptian iconography for the

935
00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:13,120
last 30 years 40 years right yeah yeah

936
00:37:16,830 --> 00:37:14,740
it's weird because I do see that

937
00:37:18,930 --> 00:37:16,840
symbolism but I want to talk about that

938
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:18,940
for a little bit because I mean we're

939
00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:21,370
used to seeing the symbolism used by

940
00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:22,870
secret orders and corporate overlords

941
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:26,230
and media and movies and it almost seems

942
00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:28,390
like superstitious in a way I mean can

943
00:37:31,650 --> 00:37:30,100
you how would you explain the power of

944
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:31,660
symbolism to people and is there a way

945
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:33,760
people can use the same energies that

946
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:36,880
apparently back these symbols for good

947
00:37:41,550 --> 00:37:39,730
in their own life okay well one way to

948
00:37:43,950 --> 00:37:41,560
look at it I think is this with all

949
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:43,960
spiritual or metaphysical systems like

950
00:37:49,050 --> 00:37:45,850
systems of approach that are trying to

951
00:37:51,330 --> 00:37:49,060
make contact with be all that which lays

952
00:37:53,850 --> 00:37:51,340
beyond the physical beyond the five

953
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:53,860
senses right so you're trying to make

954
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:56,320
contact or have an effect or impact from

955
00:38:01,440 --> 00:37:58,810
that direction and in doing so it's a

956
00:38:05,790 --> 00:38:01,450
reflective nature the whole as above so

957
00:38:08,730 --> 00:38:05,800
below right so it's it's reflective what

958
00:38:13,260 --> 00:38:08,740
symbols represent to us here are our

959
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:13,270
ideas and people are the living things

960
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:16,570
but in the spiritual realm the symbols

961
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:18,910
and the emblems are the living things

962
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:22,330
and people represent aspects or ideas of

963
00:38:27,390 --> 00:38:25,090
characteristics of self is that does

964
00:38:29,250 --> 00:38:27,400
that make sense it does it does but I

965
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:29,260
just wonder if people haven't been

966
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:31,750
introduced to the meanings behind these

967
00:38:36,540 --> 00:38:34,000
symbols how does it still have an effect

968
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:36,550
because it's already imprinted in us I

969
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:38,530
believe in genetic memory we are

970
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:40,930
consciousness we we have a core

971
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:42,790
consciousness that we're all rooted to I

972
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:45,850
believe we're all slices or divisions or

973
00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:49,810
copies or you know clones if you will of

974
00:38:55,230 --> 00:38:52,750
a greater of a greater whole and and in

975
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:55,240
the division contained within each piece

976
00:39:00,120 --> 00:38:58,090
is the the whole entirety you know the

977
00:39:01,890 --> 00:39:00,130
greater reality within each piece mm-hmm

978
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:01,900
in that in that sense you know if you if

979
00:39:07,410 --> 00:39:04,810
you grasp the fractal reality you know

980
00:39:09,450 --> 00:39:07,420
yeah yeah and so so in that sense we

981
00:39:13,290 --> 00:39:09,460
have everything contained within us we

982
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:13,300
are in fact a living symbol ourselves of

983
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:16,810
the divine on that level so we are the

984
00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:18,610
living symbol ourselves and contained

985
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:19,870
within almost like a living breathing

986
00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:22,690
sigil which is a layered symbol a symbol

987
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:26,830
upon symbol upon symbol so it's a little

988
00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:29,680
abstract I know but in the end we have

989
00:39:35,550 --> 00:39:32,260
those symbols already imprinted or

990
00:39:38,190 --> 00:39:35,560
encoded within our consciousness yeah I

991
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:38,200
mean that seems to make sense as I start

992
00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:39,490
to learn more about the symbols

993
00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:41,260
themselves in the history behind them

994
00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:43,600
starts to be easier to step outside of

995
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:45,880
the situation and kind of look at what's

996
00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:47,650
happening and that is something I've had

997
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:49,420
a previous guest say as well that by

998
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:52,180
exposing the magic by exposing the

999
00:39:56,730 --> 00:39:54,850
symbols they're spell is is lessened

1000
00:39:58,290 --> 00:39:56,740
which I think that's part of all of our

1001
00:39:59,700 --> 00:39:58,300
awakening process and I guess that's

1002
00:40:02,670 --> 00:39:59,710
really the best thing we can do

1003
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:02,680
with it yes it is it is because it sort

1004
00:40:08,430 --> 00:40:05,200
of demystifies you know it sort of

1005
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:08,440
dispels the effect we are under a global

1006
00:40:14,010 --> 00:40:10,810
enchantment here it's a mass enchantment

1007
00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:14,020
you know and you know true secret

1008
00:40:19,170 --> 00:40:17,260
societies in the best sense was about

1009
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:19,180
sequestering and preserving human

1010
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:21,130
knowledge while humanity went through

1011
00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:23,500
whatever dark age it was currently under

1012
00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:25,630
the throes of and then what sort of like

1013
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:27,640
an ebb and flow to human consciousness

1014
00:40:32,099 --> 00:40:29,650
there's a time when humanity kind of

1015
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:32,109
just like you know shrinks back into

1016
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,510
caves and underground and wants nothing

1017
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,119
to do with anything - or higher thinking

1018
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:39,040
you know it's all barbaric or whatever

1019
00:40:42,780 --> 00:40:40,810
right and then and then and then

1020
00:40:44,849 --> 00:40:42,790
eventually people start to come back to

1021
00:40:47,339 --> 00:40:44,859
that way of wanting to explore those

1022
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:47,349
other other concepts and higher ideals

1023
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,510
and so the secret societies or just

1024
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:51,760
groups that form around the ideas to

1025
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:53,290
maintain and preserve that was the

1026
00:40:58,170 --> 00:40:55,930
intention the problem is is that there

1027
00:41:00,030 --> 00:40:58,180
are those who were involved in that who

1028
00:41:02,190 --> 00:41:00,040
broke away and decided that they were

1029
00:41:04,109 --> 00:41:02,200
going to use those same tools to enslave

1030
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:04,119
and entrap people you know it's a you

1031
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:06,910
could say to use simplified terms it's

1032
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:08,650
like having the light in the dark side

1033
00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:11,230
of the Star Wars you know yeah you got

1034
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:13,720
the illuminators the illuminators are

1035
00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:16,930
the Jedi they they are the wayshowers

1036
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:19,030
the light guides the ones that lead

1037
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:22,089
people to their own full integration and

1038
00:41:27,210 --> 00:41:24,609
self-actualization you know while the

1039
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,220
other school the Sith you know they're

1040
00:41:32,849 --> 00:41:29,680
like the Illuminati the captivate errs

1041
00:41:37,170 --> 00:41:32,859
they entrap and enslave their inherence

1042
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:37,180
bind them to false realities to lies to

1043
00:41:41,579 --> 00:41:39,250
dead whole dead end rabbit holes and

1044
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:41,589
little coldest acts of awareness and

1045
00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:43,450
knowledge that keeps them you know

1046
00:41:48,450 --> 00:41:45,880
caught up in the simulated inorganic

1047
00:41:50,670 --> 00:41:48,460
chaos yeah the Greeks had a term for it

1048
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:50,680
they called it the stereo MA

1049
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:53,410
the stereo Moe was the the counter clock

1050
00:41:58,740 --> 00:41:55,839
world that philip k dick talks about and

1051
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:58,750
and you know III think we all know which

1052
00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:00,640
one the so-called masters of this world

1053
00:42:04,170 --> 00:42:02,920
the powers that shouldn't be prefer you

1054
00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:04,180
know what school they're using right

1055
00:42:08,339 --> 00:42:06,220
yeah I mean that's what I was going to

1056
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:08,349
ask you next is it seems today that

1057
00:42:12,540 --> 00:42:10,570
whenever I see these symbols used it's

1058
00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:12,550
always by a powerful organization or

1059
00:42:16,290 --> 00:42:13,950
rich organization

1060
00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:16,300
extracting more wealth from the masses

1061
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:18,760
and I'm wondering I mean are there

1062
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:21,310
illuminators left or is it all just the

1063
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:22,930
dark side I mean is there anyone

1064
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:25,690
fighting for good still well you know I

1065
00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:28,030
mean George Carlin said once you know

1066
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:30,670
it's not all of humanity's bad it's just

1067
00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:33,040
enough or bad to screw it up for the

1068
00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:34,390
rest of us but he used a different term

1069
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:37,660
you know what I mean it's like just

1070
00:42:41,550 --> 00:42:39,370
enough or bad to tip the scales in the

1071
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:41,560
wrong direction it seems I like to think

1072
00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:43,990
you know yeah I hear you Greg I mean who

1073
00:42:49,290 --> 00:42:46,660
knows I have I come from an optimistic

1074
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:49,300
position I have four children I have a

1075
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:50,890
wife I have a family oh we're trying to

1076
00:42:54,990 --> 00:42:52,930
raise people in this world so I believe

1077
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:55,000
that there that in my experience most

1078
00:42:58,260 --> 00:42:56,410
people are good that I've come into

1079
00:43:00,210 --> 00:42:58,270
contact with most people that I cross

1080
00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:00,220
paths with every day are just good

1081
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:02,350
law-abiding citizens that you know for

1082
00:43:05,940 --> 00:43:04,090
the most part that you can less the laws

1083
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:05,950
are stupid and they're you know but they

1084
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:07,570
but they they go about their business

1085
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:09,280
they don't want to harm people they

1086
00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:11,170
don't want to exploit people they just

1087
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:12,820
want to be left to do what they want to

1088
00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:14,410
do you know and there's nothing wrong

1089
00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:14,860
with that

1090
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:16,840
that's so my experience has been that

1091
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:19,450
humanity is not fallen is not evil is

1092
00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:22,330
good but the power that controls

1093
00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:25,270
humanity is corrupt and a corruption

1094
00:43:30,750 --> 00:43:27,820
that is in the core of the system it

1095
00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:30,760
bleeds out into all the extremities so

1096
00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:31,960
that we're all under that we're all

1097
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,670
under the effect of it you can't even

1098
00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:35,680
get up and go out into the world without

1099
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:37,960
being an accomplice a co-conspirator and

1100
00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:40,000
this evil that were engaged in you know

1101
00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:42,550
I mean a great point it is I mean and

1102
00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:44,980
it's sad to say but we can do something

1103
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:47,500
as like we were saying non-compliance

1104
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,530
you know abstract non-compliance

1105
00:43:55,620 --> 00:43:52,480
I remember watching an old an old

1106
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,630
Terence Mckenna video from back in the

1107
00:43:58,860 --> 00:43:57,040
80s he was that like the II salon

1108
00:44:01,020 --> 00:43:58,870
Institute or something he was breaking

1109
00:44:03,150 --> 00:44:01,030
down you know probably the similar stuff

1110
00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:03,160
that we've talked about right here today

1111
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:04,870
you know and he was putting it out there

1112
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:06,490
and he was saying just about exactly

1113
00:44:09,810 --> 00:44:07,690
like I'm saying like we're totally

1114
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:09,820
screwed man right and the guy in the

1115
00:44:13,350 --> 00:44:11,680
audience goes well what do we do man

1116
00:44:15,210 --> 00:44:13,360
what's the answer if that's the case you

1117
00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:15,220
know what's the what's the solution and

1118
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:17,020
without even batting an eyelash without

1119
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:18,130
even thinking about it

1120
00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:20,560
McKenna shouts right back or you know he

1121
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:23,320
throws it right back at him art art is

1122
00:44:27,740 --> 00:44:27,040
the answer creativity you know total

1123
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:27,750
novel

1124
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:30,610
humor that's the answer that really is

1125
00:44:37,170 --> 00:44:33,760
that's why you know that's our hope is

1126
00:44:38,610 --> 00:44:37,180
that we have that luminous epinoia that

1127
00:44:40,650 --> 00:44:38,620
the Greeks call the creative

1128
00:44:42,330 --> 00:44:40,660
visualization and imagination that's

1129
00:44:44,370 --> 00:44:42,340
like a spark within each one of us and

1130
00:44:46,530 --> 00:44:44,380
it can't be controlled

1131
00:44:49,410 --> 00:44:46,540
it can't be harnessed except by the

1132
00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:49,420
individual who possesses it and then

1133
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,190
expresses it to everybody else and

1134
00:44:56,580 --> 00:44:53,920
that's our only hope is that each one of

1135
00:44:58,170 --> 00:44:56,590
us gets in touch with that and says you

1136
00:45:00,360 --> 00:44:58,180
know what I'm not gonna play your stupid

1137
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:00,370
reindeer games I'm gonna do this instead

1138
00:45:04,290 --> 00:45:02,530
that's what John lash Hill wrote a book

1139
00:45:07,290 --> 00:45:04,300
called not in His image and he has a

1140
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:07,300
website called meta history org he talks

1141
00:45:11,820 --> 00:45:09,280
about that that the Greeks predicted the

1142
00:45:13,890 --> 00:45:11,830
Gnostics predicted that at the last

1143
00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:13,900
minute at the eleventh hour when all

1144
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:15,550
hope seems lost

1145
00:45:19,830 --> 00:45:17,410
right before humanity goes into the

1146
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:19,840
abyss we'll just say you know what we'll

1147
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:21,040
lift our heads and we'll be like this is

1148
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:22,720
a bunch of [\h__\h] we're out of here

1149
00:45:25,050 --> 00:45:24,310
and we'll just shrug off the yokes and

1150
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:25,060
walk away

1151
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:26,560
and go off into the woods you know and

1152
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:29,770
give it up and that's ople to me yeah

1153
00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:31,390
man I mean that sounds that sounds

1154
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:32,470
excellent

1155
00:45:35,130 --> 00:45:33,850
and when you're talking about the

1156
00:45:36,540 --> 00:45:35,140
corruption being in the center of the

1157
00:45:39,090 --> 00:45:36,550
system and it bleeds out I mean I

1158
00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:39,100
completely vibe with that because I hear

1159
00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:41,140
a lot of people talking about little

1160
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:43,150
things that are wrong this or that on

1161
00:45:49,830 --> 00:45:45,730
different layers of the onion and they

1162
00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:49,840
pose a solution that to me is like no

1163
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:51,700
way will that change things and I start

1164
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:54,130
to think about how huge a change we

1165
00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:55,930
would need to really root out that

1166
00:46:03,680 --> 00:45:59,410
corruption because it is so it's so

1167
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:03,690
systemic it has created a system that

1168
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:07,210
incentivizes evil behavior you know

1169
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:09,070
capitalism itself you know the worship

1170
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:12,070
of money I mean we all of us in America

1171
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:13,810
should feel a little guilty today

1172
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:15,280
because people are dying on the other

1173
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:16,720
side of the planet so we can have a

1174
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,090
prettier nicer cleaner cage than the

1175
00:46:23,490 --> 00:46:21,520
rest of the planet and their whole world

1176
00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:23,500
is kind of just waiting for us to stop

1177
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:27,520
being okay with it you know the only the

1178
00:46:31,350 --> 00:46:29,110
only point only problem is is that

1179
00:46:32,910 --> 00:46:31,360
American public has been stripped of its

1180
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:32,920
cleaner critical thinking and the

1181
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:36,010
American public has no capacity to

1182
00:46:39,870 --> 00:46:37,450
critically think its way out of the

1183
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:39,880
situation I mean it's not surprising

1184
00:46:43,890 --> 00:46:41,230
because there was a cyst

1185
00:46:45,870 --> 00:46:43,900
put into effect a long time ago that was

1186
00:46:47,580 --> 00:46:45,880
you know there's a guy named John Taylor

1187
00:46:49,140 --> 00:46:47,590
Gatto he wrote a bunch of books a couple

1188
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:49,150
of them one was called underground

1189
00:46:52,590 --> 00:46:50,770
history of American education

1190
00:46:54,570 --> 00:46:52,600
that's an excellent book but he also got

1191
00:46:57,930 --> 00:46:54,580
another one a little book called dumbing

1192
00:46:59,940 --> 00:46:57,940
us down and in this book he speculates

1193
00:47:01,950 --> 00:46:59,950
that in colonial America at the time of

1194
00:47:06,170 --> 00:47:01,960
the Revolution at least among the non

1195
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:06,180
slave citizens that literacy was nearly

1196
00:47:11,660 --> 00:47:09,490
100 percent he believes that you know

1197
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:11,670
let that sink in for a moment everybody

1198
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:14,230
100% literacy okay

1199
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:17,290
now among the slave classes he said

1200
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:19,650
there was 75%

1201
00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:22,990
literacy now we know that literacy was

1202
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:26,230
high because yeah propaganda was what

1203
00:47:29,970 --> 00:47:27,730
was the way that the Revolution was

1204
00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:29,980
fought the famous pamphleteers like

1205
00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:33,540
Thomas Paine whose common sense sold

1206
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:37,240
600,000 copies to 3 million colonists

1207
00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:39,790
that's a lot of copies to a small you

1208
00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:42,190
know only 3 million people 600,000 you

1209
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:44,080
know those people handed those out to

1210
00:47:48,750 --> 00:47:46,480
somebody else so probably 50% of the

1211
00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:48,760
population got a copy of that right and

1212
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:50,950
that means that if you're a read common

1213
00:47:56,970 --> 00:47:54,450
sense that is not light reading

1214
00:48:00,720 --> 00:47:56,980
that's not James Patterson or Judith

1215
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:00,730
Krantz which but that brings up another

1216
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:03,310
point which is the literacy the scale of

1217
00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:05,050
the literacy standard and you try to

1218
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:07,180
define literacy today in America I

1219
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:09,609
couldn't do it I can't find out a proper

1220
00:48:15,870 --> 00:48:12,609
scale to go on you know you can't find a

1221
00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:15,880
qualified speculations based on it so

1222
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:18,430
it's all varied criteria like it seems

1223
00:48:23,370 --> 00:48:20,170
literacy illiteracy standard today is

1224
00:48:25,530 --> 00:48:23,380
based more on a simplified approach to

1225
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:25,540
writing as in you are considered

1226
00:48:30,530 --> 00:48:27,850
literate if you can read and follow

1227
00:48:33,630 --> 00:48:30,540
instructions on how to build a barbecue

1228
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:33,640
yeah and the other thing Frederick's is

1229
00:48:41,609 --> 00:48:36,790
that our just our whole education system

1230
00:48:43,859 --> 00:48:41,619
is so linearly based you know critical

1231
00:48:47,730 --> 00:48:43,869
thinking or logical thinking is pretty

1232
00:48:50,220 --> 00:48:47,740
much thrown out the door and so we just

1233
00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:50,230
pretty much go by you know rote style of

1234
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:52,200
learning when do you agree absolutely

1235
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:54,880
absolutely I would have it's all

1236
00:48:59,519 --> 00:48:56,890
our education system is in America is

1237
00:49:01,920 --> 00:48:59,529
obedience training you learn three

1238
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:01,930
things in any school any public school

1239
00:49:05,579 --> 00:49:03,490
in most private schools I would say

1240
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:05,589
because I've been to both and most of

1241
00:49:10,499 --> 00:49:07,599
them have only three things to teach you

1242
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:10,509
number one show up on time don't be

1243
00:49:16,170 --> 00:49:13,599
tardy don't be late that's like a moral

1244
00:49:18,450 --> 00:49:16,180
offense it's a moral dilemma you better

1245
00:49:22,049 --> 00:49:18,460
show up on time that's building bad work

1246
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,059
skills you know for the future that's

1247
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,400
the number one rule number two you

1248
00:49:28,799 --> 00:49:26,319
better observe your you know obey your

1249
00:49:30,809 --> 00:49:28,809
keeper obey the master obey the teacher

1250
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:30,819
do what you're told and then you know

1251
00:49:35,730 --> 00:49:32,319
that that's key number two

1252
00:49:39,029 --> 00:49:35,740
obedience number three do some mindless

1253
00:49:40,349 --> 00:49:39,039
rote activity till the bell rings and

1254
00:49:41,789 --> 00:49:40,359
then walk away don't take it with you

1255
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:41,799
like it never happened that's what you

1256
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:44,529
learned in America first man I totally

1257
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:46,569
agree and another element of schooling

1258
00:49:50,220 --> 00:49:47,890
that's interesting is we're talking

1259
00:49:52,109 --> 00:49:50,230
about these secret societies that have

1260
00:49:54,450 --> 00:49:52,119
been running the show for generations

1261
00:49:56,789 --> 00:49:54,460
and they're built on a model of

1262
00:49:58,589 --> 00:49:56,799
cooperation yet if you cooperate with in

1263
00:50:00,240 --> 00:49:58,599
school it's called cheating and it's one

1264
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:00,250
of the worst things you can do it's all

1265
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:02,529
individuals but yet behind the scenes

1266
00:50:07,259 --> 00:50:04,690
it's it's these groups that really run

1267
00:50:09,539 --> 00:50:07,269
the show exactly exactly and you know

1268
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:09,549
you find when I've studied this I'm

1269
00:50:12,930 --> 00:50:10,569
writing a book right now called the

1270
00:50:14,759 --> 00:50:12,940
secret war inside Freemasonry and you

1271
00:50:17,130 --> 00:50:14,769
know I'm looking at the early founding

1272
00:50:18,749 --> 00:50:17,140
of compulsion schooling in America I

1273
00:50:20,370 --> 00:50:18,759
talked a little bit about it in my

1274
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:20,380
article in paranoia and I've talked

1275
00:50:24,210 --> 00:50:22,210
about it in my different presentations

1276
00:50:26,970 --> 00:50:24,220
but what we find when we look closely

1277
00:50:29,099 --> 00:50:26,980
it's crazy there was this one guy he was

1278
00:50:32,249 --> 00:50:29,109
uh his name was Davis he was a minister

1279
00:50:34,890 --> 00:50:32,259
in Rochester New York in 1830 you know

1280
00:50:37,319 --> 00:50:34,900
right after the William Morgan affair

1281
00:50:40,019 --> 00:50:37,329
and he got run out of town he was a

1282
00:50:42,749 --> 00:50:40,029
Unitarian minister who was accused of

1283
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:42,759
having a Lodge of the Illuminati held in

1284
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:45,250
his church and so he was connected to

1285
00:50:50,910 --> 00:50:47,950
what's this mysterious group of Mason's

1286
00:50:52,859 --> 00:50:50,920
called Scotch Masons who consider

1287
00:50:55,410 --> 00:50:52,869
themselves above reproach from any other

1288
00:50:57,390 --> 00:50:55,420
made they're like a high-class mason

1289
00:50:58,759 --> 00:50:57,400
within masonry that has you know like

1290
00:51:01,319 --> 00:50:58,769
it's almost like the Supreme Council

1291
00:51:03,329 --> 00:51:01,329
33rd they can't be answerable to anybody

1292
00:51:05,490 --> 00:51:03,339
else that's what these Scotch Masons are

1293
00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:05,500
in history were called and and so

1294
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:08,350
basically he was associated with them he

1295
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:10,330
runs for his life from Rochester he goes

1296
00:51:16,140 --> 00:51:12,730
across the great lake regions and ends

1297
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:16,150
up in Michigan where he's appointed the

1298
00:51:22,770 --> 00:51:19,090
first Minister of Education in the state

1299
00:51:24,270 --> 00:51:22,780
of Michigan's new education system which

1300
00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:24,280
was the first compulsion schooling

1301
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:26,830
system in America and he becomes the

1302
00:51:32,250 --> 00:51:29,530
first Minister of Education to try out

1303
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:32,260
this new fledgling compulsion schooling

1304
00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:33,730
system that that was then you know

1305
00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:35,590
stepped up and expanded across the

1306
00:51:41,330 --> 00:51:39,310
entire nation yeah god it just seems so

1307
00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:41,340
hard to fight a machine that's that

1308
00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:43,740
calculated and it's been that well-oiled

1309
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:46,780
but um I want to talk a little bit

1310
00:51:50,990 --> 00:51:49,330
before we go about magic and these

1311
00:51:54,450 --> 00:51:51,000
elements in these secret societies

1312
00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:54,460
because we hear about this past and when

1313
00:51:59,490 --> 00:51:56,260
you touched on it earlier a past where

1314
00:52:03,260 --> 00:51:59,500
positive magic Gnosticism was common

1315
00:52:06,690 --> 00:52:03,270
among the people and we have this this

1316
00:52:10,410 --> 00:52:06,700
idea in our heads of a past human

1317
00:52:13,230 --> 00:52:10,420
paradise and I just wonder if this magic

1318
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:13,240
was used today reintroduced to the

1319
00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:15,010
people because it's made it been it's

1320
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:17,230
made to sound almost worthless in modern

1321
00:52:20,580 --> 00:52:18,970
society at least for commoners but if it

1322
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:20,590
was reintroduced in a positive way and

1323
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:23,130
people started practicing some of this

1324
00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:26,290
occult knowledge and a widespread way

1325
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:28,420
what kind of effect do you think it

1326
00:52:33,660 --> 00:52:31,210
would have is it really that strong well

1327
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:33,670
I think that it's important to realize

1328
00:52:38,250 --> 00:52:36,130
that magic hasn't gone anywhere I mean

1329
00:52:40,620 --> 00:52:38,260
it may not be in the forefront of our

1330
00:52:42,930 --> 00:52:40,630
consciousness right right but it's just

1331
00:52:45,770 --> 00:52:42,940
a term you know the idea is that these

1332
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:45,780
terms like a cult magic hermetic

1333
00:52:51,180 --> 00:52:47,970
esoteric they've all been misapplied

1334
00:52:53,220 --> 00:52:51,190
misused and misdirected so much that

1335
00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:53,230
it's clouded to true meanings of these

1336
00:53:01,560 --> 00:52:57,280
things and magic for the working

1337
00:53:03,420 --> 00:53:01,570
definition is merely causing change in

1338
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:03,430
accordance with will whether it be

1339
00:53:07,860 --> 00:53:04,720
change of your own personal

1340
00:53:11,550 --> 00:53:07,870
consciousness or change in your in your

1341
00:53:13,770 --> 00:53:11,560
general environment around you and it's

1342
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:13,780
that's a very pragmatic and utilitarian

1343
00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:16,210
definition of it and in that way we are

1344
00:53:20,130 --> 00:53:19,180
all conducting magical operations every

1345
00:53:22,109 --> 00:53:20,140
day of our lives

1346
00:53:24,059 --> 00:53:22,119
because you're all we're all engaging

1347
00:53:26,970 --> 00:53:24,069
in activities in which we're using our

1348
00:53:27,930 --> 00:53:26,980
will to cause change you know and that's

1349
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:27,940
really what it's about

1350
00:53:33,630 --> 00:53:30,640
but what the difference is is that magic

1351
00:53:36,269 --> 00:53:33,640
launches from the belief that potential

1352
00:53:40,109 --> 00:53:36,279
and possibilities are limitless and that

1353
00:53:41,970 --> 00:53:40,119
we have an ability away a route to the

1354
00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:41,980
metaphysical or the greater reality

1355
00:53:48,299 --> 00:53:45,460
beyond the five senses so magic takes it

1356
00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:48,309
is a tacit belief just like religion

1357
00:53:53,009 --> 00:53:50,559
does that there is a metaphysical

1358
00:53:55,019 --> 00:53:53,019
reality a reality beyond this physical

1359
00:53:57,839 --> 00:53:55,029
reality that we're all engaged in and so

1360
00:54:01,289 --> 00:53:57,849
once a person has that belief magic

1361
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:01,299
merely is a toolbox for which they might

1362
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:04,450
become more acquainted with that

1363
00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:06,880
metaphysical reality and so from that

1364
00:54:12,059 --> 00:54:09,460
perspective for myself I believe that

1365
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:12,069
magical teachings esoteric system

1366
00:54:17,249 --> 00:54:15,369
spiritual systems occult Sciences all

1367
00:54:19,620 --> 00:54:17,259
those you know aromatic arts whatever

1368
00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:19,630
you want to call them the the Western

1369
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:22,180
occult tradition or the hidden teachings

1370
00:54:26,819 --> 00:54:23,890
that were forbidden and suppressed for

1371
00:54:30,569 --> 00:54:26,829
so long by the church these are methods

1372
00:54:33,210 --> 00:54:30,579
for anyone who feels so inclined to

1373
00:54:36,299 --> 00:54:33,220
become greater acquainted with their own

1374
00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:36,309
inner self and we know that that is

1375
00:54:41,339 --> 00:54:38,920
really you know above the the Oracle of

1376
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:41,349
Delphi was the quote of fail ease which

1377
00:54:45,870 --> 00:54:43,839
said know thyself and know the secrets

1378
00:54:49,259 --> 00:54:45,880
of the universe you know that's that's

1379
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:49,269
that's an implied teaching and hermetics

1380
00:54:56,460 --> 00:54:52,450
like as above so below and so these

1381
00:54:59,009 --> 00:54:56,470
things are totally relevant because I

1382
00:55:00,779 --> 00:54:59,019
believe as do many other thinkers out

1383
00:55:03,299 --> 00:55:00,789
there and Joseph Campbell was one of

1384
00:55:05,279 --> 00:55:03,309
them John lash I spoke of earlier and

1385
00:55:08,099 --> 00:55:05,289
many other researchers and writers and

1386
00:55:10,349 --> 00:55:08,109
media content providers all believe that

1387
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:10,359
we've had something vital stripped from

1388
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:13,119
our awareness it was part of the process

1389
00:55:17,370 --> 00:55:15,249
of getting to where we are today in this

1390
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:17,380
postmodern world of completely

1391
00:55:23,099 --> 00:55:20,049
controlled factors and you know the

1392
00:55:25,319 --> 00:55:23,109
optimizing of production value you know

1393
00:55:27,180 --> 00:55:25,329
of the human resources mm-hmm and that's

1394
00:55:29,370 --> 00:55:27,190
really where it all happened with the

1395
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:29,380
Industrial Revolution and that's when

1396
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:31,839
you know things shifted where we began

1397
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:33,770
to shift and they was really in

1398
00:55:38,020 --> 00:55:35,170
important you mentioned earlier about

1399
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,030
inhumane acts where it was really

1400
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:40,160
important to condition the human animal

1401
00:55:45,610 --> 00:55:42,170
first of all to see himself as an animal

1402
00:55:48,910 --> 00:55:45,620
and to condition himself to be willing

1403
00:55:51,340 --> 00:55:48,920
and capable to perform inhumane acts

1404
00:55:53,770 --> 00:55:51,350
against his environment and his fellow

1405
00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:53,780
species because that's where profit

1406
00:55:58,330 --> 00:55:56,510
comes from you know is the how far are

1407
00:56:00,670 --> 00:55:58,340
you willing to go son you know are you a

1408
00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:00,680
company man yeah that's what it's all

1409
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:02,660
about and so that's the the definition

1410
00:56:06,850 --> 00:56:05,210
of success is the man who is willing to

1411
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:06,860
step on the next and exploit everyone

1412
00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:09,970
around him you know the the egalitarian

1413
00:56:14,650 --> 00:56:12,680
spirit that started the fraternal orders

1414
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:14,660
that were then co-opted turned into what

1415
00:56:18,850 --> 00:56:16,880
they are today had the other idea was

1416
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:18,860
the idea as we said before with the

1417
00:56:23,470 --> 00:56:21,110
illuminators the idea that we all are

1418
00:56:25,450 --> 00:56:23,480
you know a family or Brotherhood of

1419
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:25,460
humanity and that we hatched we should

1420
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:27,680
have a safe place where we could come

1421
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:29,690
together and and enjoy each other's

1422
00:56:35,020 --> 00:56:32,000
fellowship and not fear being preyed

1423
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:35,030
upon by your fellow man sitting next to

1424
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:37,070
you because that's the society we live

1425
00:56:40,270 --> 00:56:39,050
in today where nobody wants to know

1426
00:56:42,010 --> 00:56:40,280
their neighbors because they might be

1427
00:56:47,410 --> 00:56:42,020
just casing the joint trying to rip me

1428
00:56:48,910 --> 00:56:47,420
off you know yeah I mean it's we are all

1429
00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:48,920
so scared of each other and that's what

1430
00:56:52,780 --> 00:56:50,510
makes it even harder again with this

1431
00:56:54,430 --> 00:56:52,790
cooperation thing you know the secret

1432
00:56:55,930 --> 00:56:54,440
society is they're cooperating they're

1433
00:56:59,050 --> 00:56:55,940
working together they have loyalty to

1434
00:57:00,760 --> 00:56:59,060
each other above all else and on the

1435
00:57:02,620 --> 00:57:00,770
outside and the mainstream people are

1436
00:57:05,530 --> 00:57:02,630
afraid of their goddamn neighbors you

1437
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:05,540
know that seems like the mission

1438
00:57:08,910 --> 00:57:07,040
accomplished where do we go from here

1439
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:08,920
you're gonna be hopeful for the future

1440
00:57:13,630 --> 00:57:11,450
where do we attack them what systems do

1441
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:13,640
we need to overcome well I guess I just

1442
00:57:17,590 --> 00:57:15,440
keep the same battle cry it's the same

1443
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:17,600
mantra cultivating wisdom and critical

1444
00:57:21,130 --> 00:57:19,010
thinking within is the only hope for

1445
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:21,140
each person to be able to really

1446
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:23,330
cultivate a sense of knowledge and

1447
00:57:28,330 --> 00:57:25,610
wisdom from what's available around you

1448
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:28,340
so that you can discern the BS that's

1449
00:57:31,900 --> 00:57:30,170
being presented to you by the state and

1450
00:57:34,210 --> 00:57:31,910
by those who would you know call

1451
00:57:36,370 --> 00:57:34,220
themselves your keeper and and that's if

1452
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:36,380
you are aware enough or in passion

1453
00:57:39,850 --> 00:57:38,210
enough to even care because a lot of

1454
00:57:41,590 --> 00:57:39,860
people today are just asleep behind

1455
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:41,600
their digital devices I mean it's just

1456
00:57:47,140 --> 00:57:44,090
and we're all lulled into this false

1457
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,150
sense of security but it's

1458
00:57:52,450 --> 00:57:50,000
tired in a really terrible sense of

1459
00:57:54,430 --> 00:57:52,460
shortage and scarcity you know we're all

1460
00:57:56,410 --> 00:57:54,440
convinced by the petrochemical companies

1461
00:57:59,200 --> 00:57:56,420
that the only viable energy we have

1462
00:58:01,570 --> 00:57:59,210
comes from this really limited resource

1463
00:58:03,850 --> 00:58:01,580
you know this petroleum and coal you

1464
00:58:05,650 --> 00:58:03,860
know by all whatever resource right but

1465
00:58:07,420 --> 00:58:05,660
it's ridiculous we're surrounded by

1466
00:58:09,370 --> 00:58:07,430
energy all around us but we all have

1467
00:58:11,890 --> 00:58:09,380
been lulled into this narrow bandwidth

1468
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:11,900
of potential possibilities where we

1469
00:58:17,380 --> 00:58:14,330
won't believe you know what Mark Twain

1470
00:58:19,450 --> 00:58:17,390
said Mark Twain said it is far easier to

1471
00:58:22,780 --> 00:58:19,460
fool a man than to convince him he's

1472
00:58:24,820 --> 00:58:22,790
being fooled yeah that's that's a great

1473
00:58:27,130 --> 00:58:24,830
statement I love that quote yeah but I

1474
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:27,140
guess the only thing is to me sometimes

1475
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:28,640
I get frustrated that we're in a

1476
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:31,610
perpetual state of Education and you

1477
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:33,650
know if I was in the elite and I was

1478
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:36,290
running the show and some of the slaves

1479
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:39,440
started to listen to shows like this and

1480
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:42,650
listen to researchers like yourself as

1481
00:58:46,540 --> 00:58:44,330
long as they just did that and there was

1482
00:58:48,490 --> 00:58:46,550
no real action I guess I'd be okay with

1483
00:58:52,270 --> 00:58:48,500
it you know sometimes I worry that this

1484
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:52,280
the community as a whole is it's like in

1485
00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:54,290
this educational circle-jerk

1486
00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:57,110
and meanwhile we're still every day

1487
00:59:00,640 --> 00:58:58,850
being manipulated in the same way Oh

1488
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:00,650
Greg you make a great point I think it's

1489
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,970
really important we watch out for that

1490
00:59:05,590 --> 00:59:03,680
we're always in the potential for

1491
00:59:07,330 --> 00:59:05,600
atrophy you know with every moment of

1492
00:59:09,850 --> 00:59:07,340
growth and expansion there's contraction

1493
00:59:12,190 --> 00:59:09,860
you know and expect expiration I mean

1494
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:12,200
it's happening all around us and it's

1495
00:59:17,230 --> 00:59:13,970
easy to be lulled into it you know

1496
00:59:20,020 --> 00:59:17,240
another false sense of reality and and

1497
00:59:23,530 --> 00:59:20,030
we're that's why in the end right I mean

1498
00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:23,540
I really fall back on novelty humor so

1499
00:59:28,540 --> 00:59:26,510
you know irony yeah irony have fun with

1500
00:59:31,060 --> 00:59:28,550
it guys because guess what that's you

1501
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:31,070
know it's like that movie what was the

1502
00:59:34,990 --> 00:59:32,510
life is good the guy that was trying to

1503
00:59:36,550 --> 00:59:35,000
cha you know make his kid feel good on

1504
00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:36,560
the way to the gas chamber or whatever

1505
00:59:41,530 --> 00:59:39,200
you know and it was like I mean in a way

1506
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:41,540
it's what do we really believe about

1507
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:43,130
reality that's what it comes down to

1508
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:45,290
because I believe once you start looking

1509
00:59:49,630 --> 00:59:47,450
at these higher higher concepts that are

1510
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:49,640
you know packaged within these systems

1511
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:52,160
and become acquainted with and come into

1512
00:59:57,820 --> 00:59:55,250
contact with the real true circuitry of

1513
01:00:00,370 --> 00:59:57,830
the cosmos you start to find yourself

1514
01:00:00,940 --> 01:00:00,380
realizing that we're just coagulated

1515
01:00:03,069 --> 01:00:00,950
light

1516
01:00:05,650 --> 01:00:03,079
that we merely are slowed down white

1517
01:00:09,940 --> 01:00:05,660
light waves that are existing in a you

1518
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:09,950
know a photonic soup of other bent light

1519
01:00:14,380 --> 01:00:12,410
waves and you know particles and

1520
01:00:16,540 --> 01:00:14,390
molecules that are all intermingling and

1521
01:00:18,339 --> 01:00:16,550
you know what when you look at it from a

1522
01:00:20,290 --> 01:00:18,349
totally different perspective you end up

1523
01:00:22,180 --> 01:00:20,300
realize it sort of takes you off the

1524
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:22,190
hook about worrying about things so what

1525
01:00:25,780 --> 01:00:23,570
the Zen Buddhists have it right man

1526
01:00:26,740 --> 01:00:25,790
there's a very famous Cullen I memorized

1527
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:26,750
a long time ago

1528
01:00:31,450 --> 01:00:29,119
it says sitting quietly doing nothing

1529
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:31,460
spring comes and the grass grows all by

1530
01:00:37,290 --> 01:00:34,130
itself is that's important I mean that's

1531
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:37,300
really important as far as I'm concerned

1532
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:40,609
Wow well man it has been a blast I've

1533
01:00:44,319 --> 01:00:42,050
really enjoyed this interview I've

1534
01:00:45,819 --> 01:00:44,329
learned a lot ron's learned a lot the

1535
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:45,829
people have learned a lot would you like

1536
01:00:49,660 --> 01:00:47,810
to give us as terms of info about your

1537
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:49,670
website or what you're doing now what

1538
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:52,730
you got coming up next yeah we just had

1539
01:00:57,190 --> 01:00:55,130
a DVD release event in Austin Texas

1540
01:00:59,140 --> 01:00:57,200
a couple weeks ago and I have the secret

1541
01:01:01,839 --> 01:00:59,150
war on human consciousness DVD is

1542
01:01:04,359 --> 01:01:01,849
available on our website which is middle

1543
01:01:07,390 --> 01:01:04,369
chamber the letter F the letter X dot

1544
01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:07,400
wordpress.com middle chamber FX dot

1545
01:01:12,670 --> 01:01:10,160
wordpress.com you can also find myself

1546
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:12,680
and my wife who's my co-host of my

1547
01:01:18,579 --> 01:01:15,710
weekly podcast the middle chamber which

1548
01:01:21,130 --> 01:01:18,589
is on face book freighter x mater x and

1549
01:01:23,620 --> 01:01:21,140
the middle chamber page and we're on

1550
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:23,630
sync book radio network that's where

1551
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:26,510
we're our home you network now we've

1552
01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:28,730
moved from the former network we were

1553
01:01:33,579 --> 01:01:30,670
broadcasting for a few years on but

1554
01:01:35,290 --> 01:01:33,589
basically I'm looking forward to August

1555
01:01:36,550 --> 01:01:35,300
we were gonna be we're gonna be in the

1556
01:01:38,890 --> 01:01:36,560
end of July we're going to the

1557
01:01:42,010 --> 01:01:38,900
extraordinary technologies seminar

1558
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:42,020
conference in Albuquerque New Mexico and

1559
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:44,690
to take some footage and be preparing

1560
01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:47,810
for the release of another media vehicle

1561
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:50,000
which is conspiracy science theater

1562
01:01:52,210 --> 01:01:51,170
which will be brought from Freeman

1563
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:52,220
tv.com

1564
01:01:57,550 --> 01:01:54,730
and it's gonna be a variety truther

1565
01:01:59,710 --> 01:01:57,560
conspiracy video program you know a

1566
01:02:00,970 --> 01:01:59,720
video variety show yeah it's gonna be

1567
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:00,980
really cool and we're gonna do some

1568
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:02,569
there's going to be the video the the

1569
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:04,010
middle chamber video series is going to

1570
01:02:07,540 --> 01:02:05,690
be on that and where I'm gonna shoot

1571
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:07,550
some footage of the you know summ summer

1572
01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:09,890
footage from our travels we're gonna be

1573
01:02:14,370 --> 01:02:11,839
going to San Diego in August for the

1574
01:02:18,330 --> 01:02:14,380
paranoia con and also we're now

1575
01:02:20,850 --> 01:02:18,340
on build to go to the Olympia Washington

1576
01:02:23,490 --> 01:02:20,860
Olympia cinq summit which will be a

1577
01:02:25,530 --> 01:02:23,500
conference for all the sinc book writers

1578
01:02:27,390 --> 01:02:25,540
from the sinc book press are going to be

1579
01:02:31,260 --> 01:02:27,400
meeting in Olympia Washington down on

1580
01:02:33,420 --> 01:02:31,270
August 8th and 9th I guess so we've got

1581
01:02:35,550 --> 01:02:33,430
a lot of stuff for and of course I'm

1582
01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:35,560
working on a new article for paranoid

1583
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:37,390
paranoia magazine probably won't make it

1584
01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:39,370
a little summer issue at this point Ron

1585
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:43,390
unfortunately hey that's okay no problem

1586
01:02:48,690 --> 01:02:47,170
look forward to it right oh man well I

1587
01:02:50,190 --> 01:02:48,700
totally appreciate you coming on the

1588
01:02:52,110 --> 01:02:50,200
show I'm looking forward to seeing you

1589
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:52,120
here in San Diego at the paranoia con in

1590
01:02:56,310 --> 01:02:54,010
just a few months and until then and

1591
01:02:57,570 --> 01:02:56,320
take care excellent thanks again I hope

1592
01:02:59,160 --> 01:02:57,580
to come back on and give you an update

1593
01:03:01,590 --> 01:02:59,170
in the future of all the great stuff

1594
01:03:04,860 --> 01:03:01,600
that's happening absolutely man enjoy

1595
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:04,870
the day thank you sir you too Wow well

1596
01:03:08,340 --> 01:03:06,850
there we go people pretty enlightening

1597
01:03:11,340 --> 01:03:08,350
stuff Ron what'd you think of that one

1598
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:11,350
you like that I thought it was excellent

1599
01:03:19,590 --> 01:03:16,570
Fred or X is a very articulate yes

1600
01:03:23,310 --> 01:03:19,600
compelling it was really mind boggling

1601
01:03:26,730 --> 01:03:23,320
though I enjoyed how he was able to

1602
01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:26,740
break things down you know as far as the

1603
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:29,440
evolution and D evolution of human

1604
01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:33,130
consciousness and the usurping of you

1605
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:35,020
know knowledge and wisdom so it was a

1606
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:38,050
great show yeah I mean I loved it and I

1607
01:03:44,010 --> 01:03:41,170
can never get tired of looking into that

1608
01:03:46,170 --> 01:03:44,020
stuff I mean the alternative is is

1609
01:03:49,950 --> 01:03:46,180
pretty vast and it seems like we've been

1610
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:49,960
manipulated to believe a whole wrong end

1611
01:03:55,470 --> 01:03:53,200
of the spectrum and it's never boring to

1612
01:03:57,030 --> 01:03:55,480
go deep into what's possibly the true

1613
01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:57,040
reality but I wanted to give you a

1614
01:04:01,170 --> 01:03:58,960
minute to talk about paranoia Kahn

1615
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:01,180
before we get out of here and you've got

1616
01:04:05,970 --> 01:04:02,710
a pretty decent lineup I think you've

1617
01:04:07,890 --> 01:04:05,980
got most of it kind of fleshed out you

1618
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:07,900
got some topics as well you want to give

1619
01:04:11,970 --> 01:04:10,000
those to the people sure once again the

1620
01:04:14,940 --> 01:04:11,980
paranoia con will happen

1621
01:04:17,310 --> 01:04:14,950
August 2nd and 3rd and I'll have some

1622
01:04:19,530 --> 01:04:17,320
information on my website within the

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01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:19,540
next few days but I'll have eight

1624
01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:23,890
speakers so for speakers per day we'll

1625
01:04:29,730 --> 01:04:27,700
have Marie D Jones who's been on

1626
01:04:32,490 --> 01:04:29,740
higher side chats she's going to talk

1627
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:32,500
about viral disinformation the mechanics

1628
01:04:40,530 --> 01:04:38,170
lies rumors and disinformation we're

1629
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:40,540
also going to have raptorex who's going

1630
01:04:45,870 --> 01:04:43,210
to talk about and elaborate on the

1631
01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:45,880
secret war on human consciousness and

1632
01:04:51,530 --> 01:04:49,180
then Corinne Munez from Los Angeles is

1633
01:04:55,290 --> 01:04:51,540
going to talk about the dangers of GMOs

1634
01:04:59,520 --> 01:04:55,300
and sort of an update on the evil

1635
01:05:02,579 --> 01:04:59,530
corporation Monsanto will also have a

1636
01:05:05,010 --> 01:05:02,589
paranoia rider Naveed con who's going to

1637
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:05,020
talk about Islamophobia an in-depth look

1638
01:05:10,890 --> 01:05:09,040
at anti-muslim propaganda and then a

1639
01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:10,900
good friend of mine an editor of

1640
01:05:15,030 --> 01:05:13,030
paranoia magazine Alana Freeland is

1641
01:05:17,810 --> 01:05:15,040
going to talk about her upcoming book

1642
01:05:21,540 --> 01:05:17,820
which is being published by feral house

1643
01:05:25,260 --> 01:05:21,550
titled chemtrails HAARP and the total

1644
01:05:27,660 --> 01:05:25,270
dominance spectrum of planet Earth and

1645
01:05:30,540 --> 01:05:27,670
then two individuals who I met at the

1646
01:05:33,390 --> 01:05:30,550
UFO Congress conference back in February

1647
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:33,400
are also going to be presenters at the

1648
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:36,400
paranoiac on clifford mahooty is going

1649
01:05:40,650 --> 01:05:39,280
to be speaking on extraterrestrial

1650
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:40,660
origins from a Native American

1651
01:05:48,740 --> 01:05:46,290
perspective and finally David Weatherly

1652
01:05:52,170 --> 01:05:48,750
who's going to talk about his book

1653
01:05:55,609 --> 01:05:52,180
strange intruders anomalous entities of

1654
01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:55,619
the paranormal once again you can go to

1655
01:06:01,710 --> 01:05:59,920
WWE Magazine comm for updates on the

1656
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:01,720
paranoia con and it'll be reasonably

1657
01:06:08,010 --> 01:06:05,410
priced as well that's awesome man I hope

1658
01:06:10,109 --> 01:06:08,020
we can really blow this one up I we got

1659
01:06:11,819 --> 01:06:10,119
to get out there and hang some posters

1660
01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:11,829
with that kind of with the stuff you

1661
01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:13,000
just mentioned because I don't have a

1662
01:06:18,210 --> 01:06:15,849
job now so um put me to work man we can

1663
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:18,220
definitely make it happen but I love

1664
01:06:21,660 --> 01:06:20,290
today's episode thanks to both Frey

1665
01:06:23,550 --> 01:06:21,670
directs and Ron Patton for being here

1666
01:06:25,290 --> 01:06:23,560
today I can't wait for the con that

1667
01:06:26,970 --> 01:06:25,300
about does it for us people you know I'm

1668
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:26,980
Hawking t-shirts over at conspiracies

1669
01:06:31,410 --> 01:06:29,440
net I know I'm out of a lot of sizes and

1670
01:06:33,329 --> 01:06:31,420
designs I'm sorry about that I'm getting

1671
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:33,339
closer to having new designs every day

1672
01:06:36,450 --> 01:06:34,930
and of course we're getting to the

1673
01:06:38,609 --> 01:06:36,460
halfway point of this round of the money

1674
01:06:40,349 --> 01:06:38,619
bomb we're already at the $200 mark so

1675
01:06:41,339 --> 01:06:40,359
100 bucks for me and 100 bucks for one

1676
01:06:43,049 --> 01:06:41,349
of you because this is

1677
01:06:45,180 --> 01:06:43,059
biotic relationship I couldn't do it

1678
01:06:47,759 --> 01:06:45,190
without you fine people and with that

1679
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:47,769
take care of yourself out there and keep

1680
01:06:50,969 --> 01:06:49,450
the wise words of Michael Rupert with